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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cloudy Weather" data-source="post: 1453925" data-attributes="member: 1100"><p>I got a pair of the black suede ones today. Box price was $85, my initial thoughts are good. Feels like a tre, little narrower and the toe cap is thick with multiple layers and a triple stitch to hold the suede together. My only complaints is when they are skated, the ollie pad area is going to fall apart quick and then just rip all the way along the shoe. Definitly worth copping to skate or even to chill, real comfy and the 3m is sick.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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